The Christchurch Civic Creche Case


News Reports - Main Index


2005 Index

 




http://tinyurl.com/e336g

Tim Barnett Blog
August 15 2005, 12:23

Select Committee reports on the Christchurch Civic Creche case
by Nancy Sutherland

Tim, you write above of the report being "virtually all unanimous". You mean after Clem Simich and Lianne Dalziel departed from the original 11, of the 9 left you all were virtually unamimous? Is this really 'virtually unanimous'? And anyway the report reflects several differences that are mutually inconsistent.

Clem Simich's name appears in the report to be connected to this condemnation of it: "I believe the committee has followed a process inconsistent with the expectations of the petitioners and the recommendations are inappropriate" - what is your response?

So it is only up to a point that you as chair seem to have dealt well-enough with a sort of intra-J&E-cttee-family ruckus.

However, you have only set up a relay of delay processes that don't strongly enough suggest exactly how any political input could work to address the meat of the issues in the Civic case. One main one being the polarisation amongst psychologists, counsellors and psychiatrists over issues around ‘evidence’ and how this deleteriously infiltrated agencies and authorities including police (and still does). This means you haven't been clear about what is at issue in doing justice to the subject.

(But I am pleased to now see your additional remark above in this blog that someone (the J&E committee?) should "examine how the 1989 law reforms (passed in an atmosphere of some hysteria about child abuse, and now regarded with less than respect by courts) worked for the past 15 years".

The idea of a Privy Council appeal has to get past justice officials and they are not constitutionally beholden to do what the committee asks I believe. It has already been said your committee's recommendation as to where that request should go (you said the Attorney General) was wrong (for lack of understanding things legal).

Using the Privy Council is atavistic for NZ now (I am not saying it is not legal for the Ellis case, just sort of ill-fitting in character). The Privy Council sounds important and far away but it has NZ judges on it. In the case of Geoff of Wellington (in similar circumstances as you know) they gave him nothing I understand. Why should it/they be any better this time?

Tim, except for possibly the Privy Council idea, your committee's recommendations can have little current effect - a CCRC is pie in the sky at this point and Ellis’s case in relation to it, unknown.

You have timed the report – or someone has arranged it – to be so close to the election that nothing is clear. Even if Labour is re-elected, the report's direction and recommendations could be fabricated into something both highly politicised on the one hand, and avoidable and capable of being watered down to uselessness, on the other.

 

 

 

by Nancy Sutherland
15 Aug 2005, 14:14

PS: What does the committee's report mean when it uses the term ‘in isolation’ in the course of saying that the level of anxiety over the Civic case "in isolation .. is exceeded by levels of public anxiety about many other matters"?

Apart from that point, which I can’t get, deciding against doing a good in a first case by arguing that there are other equally or more deserving second and third cases on which no action is being taken, is not a justification for not acting for good on the first matter (see Friday’s article in The Press on clear thinking, one of a series).

I hope the Greens' weekend call by should-know-better-re-Civic-case co-leader Rod Donald to 'force other parties to focus on serious issues' (such as world poverty!) is not referring to the Ellis/Civic case as unserious issue?