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Transcripts of Interviews with
child witnesses
Kari
Lacebark aged 5, 1st interview recorded
27 Feb 1992
(Names as used
in the book "A City Possessed"
)
A I want to go.
Q Yeah, just checking. Did any
other parts of his body touch you?
A No.
Q Okay.
A Look, she can suck it.
Q Mm. And [female name],
[female name] touched your fanny once.
A Yeah. Can you ... now can I
go?
Q Yeah, nearly. Nearly
finished. And have any, any big people ever done that to your fanny before or
not?
A No, only Peter’s only.
Q Pardon?
A Peter’s only ... What have
you made there?
Q When, when did Peter touch
your fanny?
A Don’t know. No, he didn’t,
only touched me.
Q He only touched you what?
A Here’s a note.
Q Could you get that? Thanks,
[K].
A What’s it for?
Q It’s probably for me. Hey,
[K], he only touched you, what were you going to say? I asked you if he
touched, if, ah, you said Peter touched your fanny and I said where and you
said no, he didn’t, he only touched you, what?
A He touched me here [indicates
groin area].
Q What did he touch you there
with?
A I don’t know.
Q What, what?
A His penis. I want to go.
Q Yeah. I know, yeah.
A Can I please go?
Q Pretty soon. We just talk
about that one. What did that make you feel like there on your body, when his
penis?
A It feeled the same.
Q Yeah.
A Are I ...
Q Just a minute. We might be
able to get the dolls to help us show that too. Come and sit down here.
A I don’t want to.
Q Okay.
A I want to go home.
Q All right. If. Would you. Um,
when his penis touched you there, were your clothes on or off?
A On.
Q They were on. What about his
clothes?
A They were on.
Q They were on too?
A Yeah, but not his trousers.
Q How did his?
A I want to go. How long have I
been here now?
Q No, not, you’ve been here
for. It’s not quite 12 o’clock.
A What?
Q Not quite 12 o’clock.
A Two o’clock?
Q Not quite 12 o’clock. Okay.
A What, what’s that mean?
Q Well, look, um, could we, ah,
come back another day? Could you come back another day and tell me the other
things if we have a break now?
A Yeah.
Q Could you come back another
day and talk to me about that other stuff?
A Yeah. I will.
Q Would you? Yeah?
A I would.
Q Would you? Okay, all right,
well I think we’ll stop now and we’ll come back another day. How many sleeps
do you want to have before you come back? One sleep? And then come back. Come
back tomorrow.
A Yeah.
Q How would that be?
A Good.
Q Shall we ask Mummy about
that? Okay?
A Um, can I take my...
Q It’s six minutes to 12. What
do you want? Missy Bear?
A Yeah.
Q And your dee. Okay.
A I don’t need to ..... do I.
Q No. This is ..... special
room.
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