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July 18 2006

PC Gone Mad?
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Susan Wood

When you take your children to the local pool the hardest part is often getting them out of the water and dressed. When they're younger it's often easier just to dry them and whip their gear off by the side of the pool.  That's not a problem is it?  Some pools seem to think that toddler nudity is a problem and for their own protection parents are being warned not to expose their youngsters in public. Who knows who may be watching or photographing or videoing.   So are how our pool people paranoid or protecting the public?   In a moment the Recreation Association. First this from Jenny Harper


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

It's a place for fun, family and wholesome entertainment. A perfect place to soak away those winter blues. But Amanda Crozier has been told her community pool is also a place where perverts may be lurking. In 2006 it seems the public pool is not the place to be seen in your birthday suit, even when you've only been wearing it for 16 months.


Amanda Crozier

I was in the middle of dressing her when a lifeguard came up to me and said "I'm sorry but you cannot change your daughter here. I just looked very puzzled at her and she then issued me a notice saying that "It is now our policy that everybody must be changed in the changing rooms.


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

Were your other children swimming at the time?


Amanda Crozier

They were and I was keeping an eye on them throughout this whole process.


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

It all happened here at the Kaiapoi Aquatic Centre. It's a Council owned facility. Today they say there is no ban on child nudity and the message to this Mum was meant as a warning about the risks.


Craig Sargison, Kaiapoi Aquatic Centre:

One is to protect the poolside from a hygiene point of view and the other is personal safety for the parents and the children so they are not being filmed by anyone around the poolside


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

Amanda and Ophelia, togs or no togs were welcome to Christchurch Centennial Pool today where the undress code is not as strict


Michaela Ross (Centennial Pool, Christchurch)

That happens all the time and while we wouldn't encourage it it's the parent's choice as to how they get their child changed.


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

At pools around the country today the topic of child nudity was the talk of the tiles:


Parent

It's gone wrong. Totally. The world's a sad place if you have to start thinking like that.


Parent

She's three and a half. And I'm not going to go into the changing room when everythings sort of here. And particularly if you've got other kids swimming in the pool, you can't leave.


Jenny Harper (Voiceover:)

At this Auckland pool caregivers are welcome to change their pre-schoolers poolside. The manager says there has never been a problem


John Nixon

Well they saying that pedophiles can be sitting behind you in the movie theatre and you wouldn’t know. In a swimming pool environment with lifeguards and other staff, swimming instructors, anybody who looks out of place is immediately asked what they are here for, the purpose of their visit. They are constantly under supervision. so the likelihood or chances of anything untoward happening is very very slight.


Susan Wood

John Filsill from the NZ Recreation Association. A very good evening to you. Now I know that this is now a topic on the agenda of your national conference. Honestly haven't you got more important things to talk about?


John Filsill (NZ Recreation Association)

Well good evening Susan.  It does seem to be a topical issue and it's an issue the industry, particularly after the recent exposure will want a say on


Susan Wood

But I mean theres a million more important things around our kids, pool safety being one of them


John Filsill (

Yes, Customer Service is also a very important issue in our business. This is probably a customer service issue more than anything else.


Susan Wood

Isn't taking the right off people ...I mean you know what it is like ....you've got a couple of kids, you've got one in the pool you've got one there ....  you just kind of dress them and things ....isn't taking that right away from parents not doing much for your customer service?


John Filsill (

I think your video clips before have shown a variety of approaches. Some swimming pools use their discretion and allow this. Some swimming pools don't. It will be a question for the industry to get together to see whether national guidelines are appropriate. If we think they are, we'll formulate some and put them out as quickly as possible.


Susan Wood

So you will be putting a recommendation. Some sort of national guideline.  Another sort of a rule we all have to obey?


John Filsill (

I didn't say that . I said we'd get together and determine whether we should take that course of action. From what I'm hearing from you, perhaps not.


Susan Wood

I'm playing devil's advocate  It's my job to take the other side. A lot of people are saying today: PC gone completely mad.


John Filsill (

Susan, I think theres a time and a place for everything.  You've seen a variety of approaches. At the moment it's up to the particular facility based on it's layout; Based on it's clientele; Based on the opinions of other customers to make some rules and enforce them.  Each to his own at the moment or each to her own. And if that  approach needs to change we'll certainly be at the forefront of that.


Susan Wood

All right. John Fillsill.  Good luck. Thanks for your time this evening.