The Christchurch Civic Creche Case


2000 Documents


Eichelbaum Correspondence
March-July 2000

 




2000-0308  Val Sim - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum 

"We enclose draft terms of reference for the Ellis inquiry"

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Val Sim's role in the inquiry starts and continues to be crucial to the inquiry outcome.



2000-0309  Val Sim - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"Further to our recent telephone discussion, I enclose a further draft of the proposed terms of reference"


2000-0512 - Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Val Sim      

"I do not see that the Terms of Reference envisage that I will be restricted only to the publications set out in the Terms. It would be foreseen that I would read other publicly available material. A distinction may be drawn however with regard to material that is not publicly available. The Thorp report might be in this category?"


2000-0525 - Val Sim - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"Thank you for your comments on the additional material that we thought might possibly be sent to the other interested parties. When the terms of reference for the inquiry were originally drafted, we thought it desirable to confine the material that was included in the schedule to those documents that the Court of Appeal indicated might more appropriately be considered by an inquiry. Amongst other reasons, this was because we were concerned that the inclusion of other material, that was otherwise properly considered by the Court, might encroach upon the Court's jurisdiction.

In our opinion, the safest course would be to maintain this approach in relation to the material that is not publicly available, including documents such as Sir Thomas Thorp's report.

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Val Sim, together with Eichelbaum's earlier letter, provides evidence that Thorp's report was not publicly available, despite the later statements by Justice Minister Phil Goff that it always had been, when the Thorp report was leaked

In any event, Val Sim appears to support keeping Thorp out of the Eichelbaum inquiry, restricting the scope of the inquiry, especially considering Thorp's misgivings. 

To make the inquiry restrictive on the basis that to "include material that was properly considered by the Court might encroach upon the Court's jurisdiction" is mischievious - given that all material has been "properly considered" - the question is whether it was adequately considered.

 


2000-0529 - Thomas Eichelbaum - - letter to - Michael Petherick

"I write to request 3 copies of each of the Master tapes of interviews with child complainants who gave evidence at the High Court trial"


2000-0602 - Val Sim - Letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

·           Cover Sheet   (35K) 

·           Letter   (293K)    

·           Appendix - Goodman   (401K)   

·           Appendix - Poole    (114K)   

·           Appendix - Davies    (309K)   

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A letter which sets up the inherent bias in the whole inquiry.  By discounting all experts suggested by the defence - and "any experts with a close publishing association with them" those advising Eichelbaum managed to stack the inquiry with "experts" who would act against Ellis.

Eichelbaum role as an independent investigator was compromised by accepting such bias.

Val Sim provides this advice. She does not provide any evidence that her advice has been informed by anybody who has expertise in the field of memory and child suggestibility.

 

 

"We have identified three possible candidates":.

Professor Gail Goodman, Professor Graham Davies, Dr Debra Poole.

"We have discounted possible candidates because of their controversial public profile"

"We have discounted a number of experts who displayed an overly academic focus in the relevant subject area"

"We have discounted those experts who have had previous involvement in the case

Dr Constance Dalenberg;
Professor Ray Bull;
Dr Michael Lamb;
Professor Maggie Bruck; and
Dr Parsonson

"We have discounted Professor Ceci who has expressed a view on Mr Ellis' case in the NZ media"

"We have discounted any experts who have a close publishing association with any of these individuals"



2000-0607 - Thomas Eichelbaum - Letter to - Val Sim

"Attached is a list of the experts nominated or recommended. I will telephone you discuss the next move."

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Eichelbaum appears willing to be reliant on the advice of Val Sim. He provides no indication that he has done any independent investigation of his own

 



2000-0608 - Val Sim - Letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

Opinion on whether leave should be sought from Court prior to sending information to overseas experts


2000-0613  Michael Petherick - file note, meeting with Sim and Eichelbaum  (htm file)   

Sim and Petherick, two officials in the Ministry of Justice, nominate Louise Sas and Kim Oates as expert psychology witnesses

peterellis.org.nz :  An extraordinary meeting:

Sim and Petherick explain to Eichelbaum the difference between research psychologists/ psychiatrists/practitioner clinicians. The need for such an explanation provides a demonstration of the basic level of understanding that Eichelbaum has at this stage


But that does not stop Eichelbaum being able to "
discount" Professors Ceci and Goodman on the basis of their high profile and research direction over the last 15 years.  

Why should being "high profile" be an obstacle to being selected?    In discounting Professor Ceci because of his "research direction" Eichelbaum sets himself up as the expert in the field, something he is arguably clearly not qualified to be.


The nomination of Sas and Oates as impartial "experts" is a further example of bias. These so called "experts" are not necessarily impartial.

 

Val Sim's further suggestion that Eichelbaum contact Prof. Thomas Lyon and ask Lyon for suggestions for possible experts warrants close scrutiny. Prof Thomas Lyon is himself not impartial.

 

The inquiry has now discounted Ceci, the principal nominee requested by the defence.  But the inquiry, most extraordinarily, considers it appropriate to ask advice of Thomas Lyon, who is one of the most outspoken critics of Ceci.

The inquiry, by design, or by accident, is clearly not independent.

 



2000-0613  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Submissioners

"The time for all interested parties is now extended to 24 July 2000. Submissions must be in my hands by that date."


2000-0623  Michael Petherick - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum 

"Professor Thomas Lyon's telephone and email address:  ……..   We have been able to contact the majority of the experts discussed at our meeting of 13 June 2000. I will email their details to you …"

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In accepting Val Sim's earlier recommendation to contact Prof Thomas Lyon as an impartial expert, Eichelbaum takes responsibility for the direction of the inquiry.

 

Perhaps Eichelbaum placed too much value upon Lyon's qualifications in the field of law.  

 

Perhaps Eichelbaum is unaware that Thomas Lyon is an outspoken critic of the defence nominee Stephen Ceci.

 

Perhaps Eichelbaum considers it appropriate to discount the principal defence nominee, Stephen Ceci, and at the same time seek advice from an outspoken critic of Ceci.

 

This site considers the independence of the inquiry was compromised by such action.

 



2000-0624  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Michael Petherick

"I was able to speak to Prof Lyon today…….He seemed to show some interest in possibly taking the role of expert advisor himself - if he offered, what would your and Val's reaction be?"

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Eichelbaum shows himself clearly reliant on Sim and Petherick as the investigators.  

 

He asks for their reaction. Why should he care what their reaction is? 

 

Neither of these Justice Department officials have qualifications in the field required of the impartial expert witness.  Why did Eichelbaum not make his own independent inquiries as to the suitability of Lyon?

This letter provides further evidence of the shortcomings of the inquiry, and of the crucial role of the Justice Department officials, Val Sim and Michael Petherick.

 



2000-0627  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Michael Petherick

Michael, I had a helpful discussion with Professor Lyon this afternoon. He did not offer himself as a candidate . He gave me comments on the names I had forwarded, and I can discuss these with you….. I would like to explore two new names he recommended: James Wood and Amy Warren"

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Eichelbaum's inquiry is being undertaken on the basis that Thomas Lyon is an impartial expert, and not in one "camp" of a significant academic debate.

 

Eichelbaum appears completely unaware that he is dealing with a group of like minded potential experts. 

 

He has by this stage "discounted" the possibility of receiving advice from anybody who could act as an advocate for the academic arguments that are crucial to the Ellis defence.

 

Eichelbaum appears, by accident or design to be carrying out an inquiry by receiving advice from

·           the Crown, (presenting the case for the prosecution);

·           the parents of the complainants (supporting the prosecution)

·           the Commissioner for Children (who has also supported the prosecution)

·           and selected expertise who like Thomas Lyon who has written (Cornell Law Review) that "an acute awareness of true cases of abuse and the difficulty abused children have in revealing abuse" affects his analysis.

 

At the same time, Eichelbaum accepts a submission from Peter Ellis, but discounts expert witnesses who may support Ellis' position.

The basis of the inquiry is unfair.




2000-0704  Judith Ablett-Kerr - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum 

"I have received your advice of the 29th of June and respond as follows:   Your indication, that you feel unable to appoint any of the three international experts nominated by Mr Ellis causes considerable concern.  I doubt that it could be seriously challenged that Professor Ceci and Bruck are the two leading experts in the field of child interviewing…….."

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Ablett Kerr, counsel for Peter Ellis, very much understates the problem by saying that Eichelbaum's unwillingness to appoint any experts nominated by Ellis "causes considerable concern"

The success and credibility of the inquiry depends on consensus amongst all parties of the "expert" witnesses who are chosen.

Eichelbaum ignores the concerns of Ablett Kerr.



2000-0704  Val Sim  letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum 

"We enclose brief biographies of Professor Amye Warren and Associate Professor James Wood. In our opinion, both of these psychologists appear to be well suited to provising opinions as part of the Ellis inquiry.       We would also note that, from the literature we have examined, neither Professor Warren nor Associate Professor Wood appear to belong to either of the "camps" that are traditionally associated with the research on child suggestibility."

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Val Sim, shows by her advice that she is well aware that there is a significant academic debate over the subject of child suggestibility.

 

Val Sim has in previous correspondence provided advice that Eichelbaum obtain advice from "one camp" (Thomas Lyon) and discount the leading figure from the other "camp" (Stephen Ceci).  It is inconceivable, for a person who has done a rudimentary examination of the literature not to have been aware of the respective positions of these academics.

 

If Eichelbaum really wished to follow through with selecting independent experts who were in neither "camp", the least he could have done was obtain consensus from both prosecution and defence submissions for the inquiry.

 

Val Sim's advice appears biased in that defence nominated experts are being labelled as being in an "unacceptable camp" but the same scrutiny is not applied to other nominations.

 



2000-0705  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Michael Petherick

"Attached for your and Ms Sim's consideration is a fax received from Mrs Ablett Kerr.  "the problem I see with [Professor Ceci] is that he has already stated his position on the main issues which I am to investigate, and on which I have to obtain the views of overseas experts. Appointing him to advise would seem unfair to the other parties, and would detract from the credibility of my own report."

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Eichelabaum spells out why his report will not be credible:


Eichelbaum says to appoint a recommended expert from the defence would be unfair on the other parties, and would detract from the report credibility.  Eichelbaum appears oblivious that the report credibility will be just as much compromised by not appointing ANY expert acceptable to the defence. The basis of a credible independent inquiry is fairness to all parties.

 
In any event, whatever opinion that Ceci has provided on particular issues does not preclude him from providing opinion and the basis for that opinion on any issue.  The real question is whether he is a credible expert.

Even if Eichelbaum's (implicit) suggestion that Ceci is not capable of providing unbiased recommendations (because Ceci has already provided some opinion) is true, why is that any worse than accepting the bias of those who have not given any opinion? 



2000-0707  Michael Petherick - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"The contact details for Professor Karen Saywitz are:
"The contact details for Professor Graeme Davies are:
"I hope to have Professor Warren's contact details to you early next week


2000-0712  Michael Petherick - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"Professor Karen Saywitz email address is….
"Professor Amye Warren's contact details are:
"Professor James Wood's email address is …


2000-0713  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Michael Petherick

"Michael, the following is the reply received from Professor Saywitz"
"Professor Saywitz obviously is one of the top people in the field."

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Eichelbaum has already taken the extraordinary step of "discounting" Stephen Ceci, arguably the top person in the field. By this action of discounting Ceci, Eichelbaum shows his limited understanding of the field.


Any inquiry commissioner would wish to have their inquiry informed by the very best expertise, to add credibility to the inquiry findings.

 

Eichelbaum, however, provides no basis for declaring his potential advisor, Saywitz, to be "obviously" one of the "top people".

 



2000-0714  Michael Petherick - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"I received your email relating to Professor Saywitz this morning, and hope to discuss it with Val at around 10:30am. In the meantime, I spoke with Dr Louise Sas early this morning. Here are her contact details…"

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There is no justification provided for the suggestion that Sas may be deemed to be a suitable "expert".  The suggestion that Sas could be deemed to be a suitable expert in the field of memory and child suggestibility - being the main issues confronting Eichelbaum - is astounding.

 

There is no doubt that Sas could act as an advocate for child victims of sexual abuse.   But the purpose of the inquiry into the Christchurch Crèche case was to determine whether there were in fact any such victims.

Significantly, documentation provided by the Justice Department leaves out any information on where Sas name mysteriously came from.

Once again Eichelbaum ignored the possibility of consulting the defence team in an effort to gain consensus.

 



2000-0719  Michael Petherick - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum

"I have spoken with Court officials …in relation to tape XXXX.  According to officials, the unrelated disclosure interview you observed was accidentally recorded …."

"You may be interested to know that….because the initial section of XXXX interview was wiped prior to trial, the tape was not shown to the jury."


2000-0721  Karen Saywitz - letter to - Thomas Eichelbaum  

"I regret that I will not be able to participate in this important endeavour"


2000-0724  Thomas Eichelbaum - letter to - Michael Petherick 

"I'm sorry to pass on the message from Professor Saywitz, turning us down. Subject to your views I suggest I now try Warren and Sas, simultaneously. Could you let me have your reaction as soon as you can."

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There is starting to appear the hint of panic in the "expert" selection, trying to find somebody who could act as an expert with some connection to the field.

 

Time is passing on and the choice of experts is required urgently. The selection process is presumably difficult, given that the criteria has effectively discounted the pre-eminent people in the field, such as Stephen Ceci, and "anybody expert with a close publishing association" to Ceci.

What "reaction" is Eichelbaum now wanting from Justice Minister Goff's staff?