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Stuff
February 22 2007

Rickards says sex claims accuser lying

Suspended assistant police commissioner Clint Rickards told a court in Auckland a woman at the centre of historic sex allegations was lying as he had never met her.

Rickards, 46, and former policemen Brad Shipton, 48, and Bob Schollum, 54, deny kidnapping and indecently assaulting the then 16-year-old girl between November 1983 and August 1984.

Rickards took the stand in his defence at the Auckland High Court today.

Rickards said he had knee surgery in October 1983 which left him in a full-length plaster cast from the top of his right thigh to the bottom of his ankle.

Claims he had been at a cafe over the road from the Rotorua police station or at the Cobb and Co socialising, could not have been true as he was not mobile , he said.

Rickards said he was on crutches until about January 23rd or 24th and was "still limping quite badly because my knee would not straighten up".

It was a "physical impossibility" for him to have gone out socialising during his recovery , he said.

Rickards told the court he was a uniformed police officer and would not have been in plain clothes as the woman alleges.

When asked by his lawyer John Haigh QC if Rickards had ever met the woman, he replied "I have no recollection, whatsoever of meeting (her)."

Rickards also said he did not get to know Shipton until 1984.

"He was a fellow police officer, both junior in the service and he was someone I would occasionally talk to."

Mr Rickards may have had a drink with Shipton at the police bar or elsewhere, he said but not while he was in a cast and on crutches.

Rickards said he did not remember meeting Schollum until 1984 but he was not a "friend who I would go out socialising with".

When asked about the alleged incident Rickards said he could not speak for the woman.

After listening to the woman's evidence Rickards said it led him to the "conclusion she was lying".

Mr Haigh asked if it was possible it was true.

"I wasn't there."

"So handcuffing her, the whole scenario – true or false?"

"False."

"Did ever such an incident occur which you were involved in?"

"Again the incidents she talks of, I definitely wasn't there.

Brent Stanaway QC accused Rickards, under cross-examination, of coming up with examples to support himself.

"I've told the truth of the questions asked of me," Rickards replied.

Mr Stanaway, in an increasingly tense exchange with Rickards, said he had sought to improve his case.

"I have given you an explanation to your questions," Rickards replied.

Mr Stanaway said due to Rickards undercover work, he had to be a "very practised liar".

"To the criminal fraternity, yes."

"You had to lie on a daily basis," Mr Stanaway asked.

"Yes, I did."

Rickards had testified over 100 times in the course of his work making him a "very practised witness", Mr Stanaway said.

"It was required of me to give evidence of truth, at those trials which I did."

Mr Stanaway challenged Rickards on his relationships with Shipton and Schollum saying he was using new information to make it seem he did not socialise with them as much as he actually did.

"It's not new, it's the truth."

Under further questioning Rickards said it was possible the woman had seen him, but he had not met or seen her.

When asked if Rickards accepted the possibility the incident could have happened, he replied: " I do not know what incident (the woman) is talking about. If such an incident did occur, I wasn't there."

"So you are allowing for the possibility it did occur?" Mr Stanaway asked.

"Given I have heard her evidence over two days and the inconsistencies that she has relayed, especially in relation to me, I believe there is no substance in what she has to say."

"If the event occurred, your case is, you weren't there?"

"That's correct."

Former All Black Steve McDowell a childhood friend of Rickards testified for the defence, saying he had visited Rickards while he was in the plaster cast.

McDowell told the court he remembered Rickards having a cast on through Christmas and remembered a second cast , which had a hinge, allowing the knee to move.

"He could not support himself without a crutch and it was sometime into the New Year when he could walk freely."

Orthopedic surgeon Dr Barry Tietjens told the court he had signed medical records declaring Rickards fit to return to police work on December 21 1983 for "selective work" but was not fit to return to full duties until February 1984.

Shipton's wife Sharon took the stand in her husband's defence, telling the court her husband had a moustache during the time the complainant had said he was clean shaven.

Mrs Shipton said her husband had a moustache from late 1982 or early 1983 for over a decade.

"He had it for more than a decade without being removed."

Under cross-examination Mrs Shipton described the relationship between themselves, Schollum and his wife Judy and the Rickards at the time as "good friends".

The trial resumes on Monday, with Mrs Shipton expected to continue being cross examined.