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Kiwiblog.co.nz
August 9 2005

Peter Ellis
by David Farrar

The Justice Select Committee has reported back on the Peter Ellis petition. Regrettably it has not recommended an inquiry, but it has made some useful suggested law changes which should help prevent a repeat.

The full 56 page report is here.

The report includes a summary of Lynley's Hood book by the Parliamentary Library. Well worth a read.

The issue is not dead though. If there is a National-led Government, Don Brash has confirmed there would be a full independent inquiry with sufficient powers to get to the bottom of the issue.

 



Comments

by Mike Collins ([email protected])
August 9 2005;  11:12

It would have been a great help had the National MPs on the committee been supportive of Brash's petition. Look at Richard Worth's minority report. It is hard to conclude from that, that a full inquiry was sought.

A good place to start for support would have been the caucus room I would have thought.

 




by Tony
August 9 2005;  12:57

Brash seems to have flip flopped on this too. Man of principle?

"But Brash said he could not guarantee Ellis would get a royal commission even if National won next month's election.

"I was convinced in 2003 that a royal commission of inquiry was judged the best inquiry at the time."

Brash said he would "take advice" on the "most appropriate" form of inquiry if he came to power".

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/0,2106,3371373a6009,00.html

 




by "gd"
August 9 2005;  14:46

This case has always had a somewhat nasty smell to it A look of radical feminazis and others conning a police force and a judicary who when they wised up wouldnt fess up and so covered up And the cover up continues with MPs from all sides looking to protect arses if you will excuse the untended pun.

 




by "baxter" ([email protected])

If we have a Jury system for serious cases then we should accept their verdicts,not hold a series of inquiries judicial or otherwise to pontificate on the evidence,or allow foreign authors to use their word skills to portray the evidence in a different light. I have often disagreed with the verdict of a Jury but never disputed their right to make it.

 




by "icehawk"
August 9 2005;  16:01

gd,

While you're complaining about "some radical feminists conning the police force", let's add in "some homophobic bigots in the police force conning the radical feminists". Not to mention the fundy christians with their allegations of satanic ritual abuse.

There wasn't just one type of nut involved in this prosecution, there was a complete pick-n-mix selection.

baxter,

The Salem witch trials had trial by jury. You may be happy with their outcome, but I have a few complaints.

What a jury decides will depend on what type of investigation is carried out and on what kind of evidence is ruled admissable. That's where this case got seriously wierd, due to some pretty dodgy legislation.

Anyway, she's not a foreign author. She's a Kiwi.

 


by Michael  ([email protected])
August 10 2005;  12:21

Isn't the real issue the fact that the officials in the Ministries of Justice and Social Development simply won't permit any questioning of the evidence given by their experts on child sex abuse?

Will the Nats really stand up to the bureaucracy if they win office, all for the sake of an obvious non-National voter like Peter Ellis?

It's all very strange.

 



by "mara"
August 11 2005;  15:41

Goff and Co. know PERFECTLY well that Peter Ellis is innocent and their moral cowardice sickens me.I have more balls than the lot of them,and I'm a sweet,little old lady.I also read Hood's book,spend far too much time on the web staying informed and am comprehensively pissed off by politicians who crave to retain power above all else.

 



by "rejected"
August 12 2005;  20:25

The so called experts in the Peter Ellis case made numerous errors. In the case of the alleged child expert interviewers evidence a lot of errors were determined.

One of these so called experts claimed in a 1997 interview that she was no longer working with victims of sexual abuse.

Unfortunately this expert was not telling the truth, and she continues to twist and manipulate innocent victims to this very day.

This interviewer has been the source of numerous false allegations and hurts, and has used totally biased and untrue methods to exact problems that are without merit and fact.

An inquiry is not only needed, but long overdue. For those who's lives she has destroyed complaints to the board that regulates her dodgy practices are also necessary.

 




by Craig Ranapia
August 13 2005;  00:48

Tony:

Change the record would you? I really despair when all you can do is whip out the sneer quotes because (gasp!) Brash is willing to seek advice on a fairly delicate and complex matter. I know this is really difficult for Clarkistas to grasp but the Prime Minister is not all-knowing and all-powerful.

 



by Tony ([email protected])
August 13 2005;  7:44

Oh heck, I feel ill.

I just clicked on a link to find out who that "Tony" impersonator was. Not only did I get some weirdo site purporting to be that of the Labour candidate for Rakaia (read the sycophantic crap on it and vomit!), but I couldn't escape from it by clicking my "back" button (even multiple clicks). Is this what modern politics has reduced (apparent) humanity to? Their hired goons are some hideous version of Frank from MASH crossed with Smithers from The Simpsons.

I can see years of therapy ahead to reduce the trauma suffered by my visit. (But for "Tony", it's too late. He's way beyond treatment.) Maybe there's a damages claim that would cover this. Perhaps it could be based on my "recovered memory"?