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Tim Barnett Blog
August 23 2005, 22:51

Select Committee reports on the Christchurch Civic Creche case
by Tim Barnett

The responses to this blog are, to say the least, interesting. Many come from people who have puts skills and energy into the fight around this case, yet few understand the constraints which Select Committees are under, nor the careful way in which we designed the recommendations.

In response to the specifics:

the report was agreed unanimously. Richard Worth of National put in a minority report which went further than the Committee in some respects, and contradicted the points he had agreed to in other places. Clem and Lianne took no part in any of the discussions.

the Privy Council route was proposed by Mr Ellis' lawyer, a proposal to which the Select Committee responded positively. She is a more eminent lawyer than any of the respondents; all their comments should be seen in that light;

the proposed Criminal Cases Review (miscarriage of justice) process has integrity. Since this general proposal arose from a response on this specific Civic Creche case, the belief that this case would have likely met any criteria for such a body was pretty self-evident, I would have thought. It is not a for a Select Committee to decide which cases such a body should take; it will have its own criteria;

the timing of the report - allowing an incoming government to respond to it - reflects both the Committee's workload leading up to it, and the need to complete the work before a new committee took over. "Craven"? To whom? The Committee ran its own timetable and overloaded programme.

some feel that the report leaves Peter Ellis in limbo or has "little current effect". This shows how inflated some peoples idea of the role of the Committee was. We were asked to produce a recommendation in response to the proposal that a Royal Commission be held into the case. If we had recommended that (instead of specific progress in Mr Ellis case, and more effective miscarriage of justice structures) in what way would Mr Ellis have been in anything but much more extended limbo? Our response gives him much more hope than an Inquiry recommendation could have done.

some attack the Committee for not reviewing the evidence in the case. Not the role of a Select Committee. Probably the role of a Criminal Cases Review body.

there are certainly various views of what a Royal Commission could have done. If it avoided some re-running of the trial, my view is that it could only have ended up with recommendations akin tomour Committees, at the most. If it decided on an effective re-run, I believe that would have been unable to deliver anything useful, since people and pain would re-emerge to have their say again. To suggest that complainants would not wish to appear in that scenario is naive. The Commission of Inquiry proposal was not a major topic in the evidence provided by the Ministry of Justice (which is publicly available), and they had no involvement in the work of the Committee beyond the hearing of their oral evidence and receipt of their supplementary written evidence.

the phrase "in isolation" means that amny topics are the subject of public discussion and dispute, but that alone would not be sufficient criteria for establishment of a Commission. If a legal case generates concern, the legal system allows appeals (seemingly still not exhausted in this case)and the law can be reviewed (currently before the Select Committee).

Thank you for your interest,

Tim Barnett

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